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Meeting called to order 7:05
Pledge of Allegiance
Welcome and introductions
-Opening comments from the President
-Rather than playing defense, we're going on the offensive to keep the State accountable for the protection of our rights. A proactive approach.
-New project is to make CT a true shall-issue state, more discussion to follow
-Sent an updated change of offices paperwork to Secretary of the State
-Clarified Paypal issues
-Renewed post office box
-Presided over E-meeting
-Discussed refreshments for this meeting
-Discussed rotating meeting location
-Discussed T-shirt order problems
-Voted to have a booth at the Expo this year
-Discussed community service project
-Discussed qualifications for E-members
-Discussed and voted on the new project to campaign for a true shall-issue system by dismantling the local issuing authority, coordinate a consistant effort for members to contact their legislators after they're seated, and provide templates and resources for them to do so.
-Will personally contact legislators for this project, get them to propose favorable laws
-Concentrate on gun shops and shooting ranges to support this project
7:12 Vice President's Report
VP out of state, no report
Just under $9k in bank, some of the checks we wrote this week haven't cleared yet
36 new members this month
Finalized arrangements to book a table at the 2011 CT Hunting/Fishing Expo
Picked up more Is That Legal Brochures
Corresponded with new members regarding the CCDL
7:15 Events Coordinator
-Annual party coming up, working to change date to early March because earlier date conflicted with Expo, probably will be 1st Saturday in March
LAC position open
Out of state, no report
Out of State
7:17 Merchandise Coordinator
-Last meeting, total of $128 in sales, 7 T-shirts, 2 magnets, 2 pins
-Issue with T-shirt printing, supplier wasn't getting our e-mails so didn't print the orders, should be resolved soon, but now missing many of our larger sizes
-Questions from the floor
-Nicholas V--Jury Duty--had to leave guns in car, because there's no way to secure weapons at the courthouse? Answer, yes, none. Also there is a policy by the BFPE that it's irresponsible to lock your gun in your car.
-Amy S.--Florida sends out a pamphlet explaining the law when you get your permit, with examples to clarify. We should suggest to DPS that lists every gun law and gives a synopsis of what it means.
-Jonathan H. says they just give you a card now, in CT, with the website on it.
-Alex S.--Webster bank is said to prohibit guns, but there was no sign. Is it against Federal law to carry a gun in a bank? Answer: no.
-Mike B.--says he was forced to leave his sidearm and even multi-tool in the car at DPS to renew his permit. We need more clarity on these issues.
-Scott W. says we can bring it up at the next E-meeting but suspects they'll bring up budget issues to refuse to do it.
-Town ordinances stricter than State law--does State preempt town? For instance, town ordinance prohibits carry of a loaded firearm within 500 yards of a town building, thus effectively prohibiting travel through the center of town. Answer: probably towns can preempt, including New Britain's ban on concealed carry.
-Jonathan H. says that in New Britain they say they they prefer you not to open carry, though concealed carry is illegal.
-OLR report requested from State recieved by Bob Crook, and we got it from him via an e-mail from Coalition of CT Sportsmen.
-Meeting called back to order 7:42
-Rich B. and Jonathan H. have a proposal to form the "Defensive Action and Response Committee", to respond to violations of rights. Actions include letter writing, phone calls, legislation. Working with the media to get the word out when this happens, before the police get this info out. This will be a more visible branch of the CCDL, giving backbone to our responses. Hopefully will include members experienced in FOIA requests, responses to police departments, etc.
-Rich is willing to lead this if he's the one chosen to do so
-This will be discussed in the E-member forum and in the next E-member meeting
-Old business brief last month, no further discussion needed.
-Food drive for community activism, proposed by Virginia B (at E-member meeting).
-Stephanie C. proposed a voter registration drive for this year as community service. The paperwork is easy and it fits with our mission.
-Shall Issue lobbying
-An effort to change CT from what it is now to a permit where you apply in one shot to an agency, preferably not DPS, for the permit, without any suitability or other way to disqualify people who are not disqualified by Federal law.
-Jonathan H.--concern is that this might also eliminate the BFPE, meaning that there's no recourse if your permit is revoked.
-Scott W. responded that if they're not Federally disqualified, and there's no suitability clause, then there should be no need for the BFPE.
-Removal of the extra requirements like suitability will eliminate the need for the BFPE, since if you're Federally barred from having a gun you can't have a permit anyway, and if you're not Federally disqualified you won't lose your permit for anything less.
-Amy S.--suggests that we do a little digging and find out from State and towns when, where and why they reject permit applications, which will show us where the hang-ups are.
-Judy A.--would that information come through an FOIA for each Town or just through the State? Amy says that you could get this from the State, and then ask the problem towns.
-Robert C. says we should go back through the minutes of the BFPE sessions, because often the towns who denied them didn't show up or issued the permit just before the appeal, meaning they didn't really care about preventing the person from getting the permit, were just doing it maliciously, meaning there's no reason the towns should have that power, and can't be trusted with that power.
-Doris L., from North Grosvenor Dale in the NE Corner of the State:
-Got her papers after taking her class, and got a big stack of papers from the Town. They asked for letters of reference, had to be mailed in. They say 6-8 months before she can get her Town permit, and demand the letters of reference. Did not turn in letters of reference, but turned in the other paperwork. No recourse until the 8 weeks are up, and at that point she can appeal to BPFE that her due process has been violated. In the meantime, Scott will contact legislators to see if they'll help.
-Is there ever a time when the police chiefs are all in one place, so they could be questioned about these policies? Possibly. Might easier to contact the Police Chiefs' organization. Or Rich B. suggests that we could have a summit for them to attend.
-Soon there will be templates up for members to use to further this project, send letters to legislators, etc.
-When they have public hearings on the proposal to ban open carry, we'll put up templates for that, and attend hearings if there are any.
-Rich B--why have a permit at all? Answer: it's not feasible to get rid of permits at this time.
-Race listed on permit--why? Is that necessary?
-Not this month but next month, we'll need to get new flyers out to shops and cards, too.
-Jonathan H. could handle this for the center of the State.
-John B--state chapter President for Oathkeepers. This year they want to put together groups to study the laws and work on emergency preparedness, since the State may not be able to handle those responsibilities very soon. This may allow us to keep martial law and FEMA out of the State, since citizens can take care of it. CCDL may be willing to participate in this, will be discussed at the E-meeting.
-Judy A.--the CCDL can offer legal advice for these sorts of groups--how to comply with the law on self-defense with firearms. We can also talk to other similar groups, have our members speak at their groups and vice versa. Networking with other organizations.
-Amy S.--The current session of the legislation starts January 5th. We're going to see bills proposed because of the recent shooting at the beer distributor, and there will be 3-5 days notice maximum before the hearings on them, so we need to be ready to testify, if we can.
-Judy A.--it's possible to go to the State website and have them send an e-mail for any updates to a proposed bill or bill so you can track legislation yourself. You can also track legislators, see what they propose. The CCDL will link to this on our website.
8:28 Meeting Adjourned.
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Meeting Minutes: November 9th 2010 CCDL
Meeting opened by Lenny with the Pledge of Allegiance:
Missing: President, Secretary, Membership Coordinator, Treasurer
President (by Lenny)
Attended Foley Malloy debate (no 2A questions or comments made)
SE CT forum for candidates attended
Due Process Violations brought up
Delays brought up
Public Access TV Show appearance
Introductions: New plus existing
Working 17 hour days for Martha Dean campaign
Worked with Judy Aron on questions to DEP regarding carry in state parks
Made changes to bylaws
Sold 6 Tee shirts and 1 hat
No new inventory ordered
Worked tirelessly on the Jerry LaBriola campaign
Feb 19 anniversary dinner at WLOPA details to follow
$200 transferred from Paypal to the bank account
Updates to the website
Changed featured sponsor ad, social networking information, email updates
With money in the kitty some thoughts for action:
Fight AWB in court
Flush out non-2A friendly folks get them on record
Talk to Legal Coordinator about this
Rich Burgess addressed the meeting:
Wallingford and Old Saybrook illegal detentions
Suggested a legal fund to fight cases and use judgements as seed money for
more lawsuits going forward.
Sue PD's that illegally detain carriers
Death by 1000 cuts, keep on fighting small battles (Ed Peruta's suggestion)
Martha's plans against Jepsens's eligibility ongoing
Joe Markley elected
Oathkeepers meeting in Southington on Wednesday Nov 17th 7-9pm at the
Southington police department auditorium, discussing precious metals,
CERT Training, SPD have been very supportive of the oathkeepers.
NH Child kidnapping by CFS in hospital of 16 hour old child due to fathers
membership in the oathkeepers (called them a militia) dismissed
CFS Suit to force a correction of their processes.
Alex Sanchez from Newington addressed the meeting:
OC and accosted by PD and State Police, confrontation in Stop and Shop
Cooperative and issued CCDL is it legal pamphlet, left to go on his way.
Judy Aron mentioned that there's a way to get documents to every library in the
state. Suggested we send some of our "Is that legal?" docs to all libraries as a
Hunting and Fishing expo in Hartford:
Jeff Tang Coordinationg
Shirt sales, information etc.
Cheryl said we need to change the date of the annual dinner so it won't conflict
with this weekend show.
John Beidler told us about a real life potential threat to his wife on a walking
trail, accosted by person asking why she was walking alone and asking if she was scared.
The mention of a loaded pistol was all it took to persuade individual to leave hastily.
Members suggested we remain on the legal offensive instead of reacting to things
No give backs. Lenny discussed at length the need for more volunteerism from the rank and file
Accept offers of help from the crowd
Rich B - His efforts help our cause a lot.
Andrew - Difficulty communicating to membership. Encourage membership to ask what needs doing
and to ask often.
Judy - Encouraged membership to write letters to local newspapers about CCDL and CT firearms
Phil - Volunteers when testimony is needed at the state house.
The more people that show up ready and prepared to testify the more of an impact we make
Andrew - Summer Libertarian false arrest
Discussed the Grand Jury System for redress of wrongs
File complaint against judges
File complaint against Police Officers for failing to arrest instigators of problems
Grand Jury presented with evidence and law - they can indict themselves (without prosecutor)
Keep public servants honest and accountable
Info on ctpatriotalliance.com
Meeting Adjourned 20:07
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7:02 Meeting opens with pledge and Introduction
7:03 Special Guest Len Suzio
CCDL endorsed candidate for State Senate 13th District
District covers Cheshire, Meriden, Middlefield & Middletown
7:10 Executive Report – President
Attended & facilitated executive meeting
Held special election for Treasurer as our current Treasurer is being deployed
Worked with other exec members to publish list of endorsed candidates; E-mails have gone out and list is posted on our website
Invited Len Suzio and Janet Peckinpaugh to speak at our meeting this month
7:12 Executive Report – VP
Attended 2 Attorney General debates.
Working part time for Martha Dean
Attended Executive member meeting Oct. 4th
Took trip to DPS to straighten out their SNAFU over the DPS-3-C form for the Kimber we raffled off at the fundraiser
As acting LAC, I fished the compilation of our endorsement list with help from other Exec. Members
7:14 Executive Report – Secretary
Received nothing from DEP regarding State Park Carry. Will work to get answers to questions through legislators and OLR.
Attended executive meeting
7:14 Coordinator Report - Membership
34 new members since last meeting.
949 total members.
Signed up for Appleseed shoot.
Will be stepping down as coordinator, but will stay on uptil
7:15 Coordinator Report - Events
Attended executive meeting.
7:15 Coordinator Report - LAC
Position is open.
The entire body of executive members is filling position until a candidate for this position is found.
Coordinator Report – Tech
Transferred money from Paypal to bank.
Updated website with meeting minutes, announcements, answered questions from
7:17 Coordinator Report - PR
Attended exec. meeting.
Drafted press release for remaining endorsements. And e-mailed it out.
Updated PR e-mail list.
Been in contact with Appleseed. 30th and 31st of October still have slots available at Blue Trail.
Potential to have a CCDL shoot at some point in the future.
7:18 Coordinator Report – Merch
Attended exec meeting.
At last meeting. Sold 1 hat, 2 shirts, 4 magnets.
2 internet sales
To be taking over as Treasurer.
Signed up for Appleseed event. Women and children are free to attend, please take advantage of that.
7:20 Special Guest: Andrew Lockwood
CCDL endorsed candidate for State Representative District 39
District covers New London
7:26 Open Forum
Man from Southington having trouble getting permit. Called Ed Peruta who had the problem solved by 4pm the next day. Joined as a member of CCDL and offered a donation.
7:28 Special Guest: James Keyser
CCDL endorsed candidate for State Representative 126th District
District covers Northern Bridgeport
7:52 Return from break
7:53 Re-opening Open Forum
Member suggested putting a classified ad section on the website for members who may have something for trade/sale.
Hans Justice President of Wolcott Land Owners Protective Assoc. is in attendance. Small club of about 300 members. Located at 920 Woodtick Road, Wolcott, CT. Good supporters of CCDL.
Atty. Rachel Baird also in attendance
8:05 Old Business
8:06 2nd Anniversary Event
WLOPA is reserved Saturday, Feb. 19th 2011
Will need help organizing.
Inhouse raffle, 50/50, food committee, donated items for the raffle.
8:08 Appleseed event
http://Appleseedinfo.org for more information
Will show you how to shoot long guns, use sites, etc.
Blue Trail event is 22lr only.
Looking to have 20 appleseed events next year.
Appleseed events are a good way to get new shooters involved
No skill or experience required.
Learn about history and marksmenship
8:13 Feedback on Legislative Agenda for 2011
What mandates are we going to want to focus on for next year?
2 week waiting period for dealer sales to those without permit or hunting license
“Have you ever been arrested?” question on permit application is prejudicial
Reciprocity with other states
Assault weapons ban done away with
Making CT a Shall Issue state.
Doing away with Local Issuing authority
8:25 Special Guest Janet Peckinpaugh
CCDL endorsed candidate for the 2nd US Congressional District
District covers most of eastern CT.
8:51 Close of meeting
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CCDL General Meeting 9/14/10
7:11 Called to order
Light agenda, many officers not present.
Pledge of Allegiance
Call by President for pro-gun, pro-2A candidates in CT
Len Suzio mentioned, for 13th district State Senate
Attended 2nd annual family picnic in Stratford.
Attended CCDL fundraiser at WLOPA with pistol and trap shooting contests
Facilitated Emember meeting in Wallingford, where new Emember Jeff Tang voted in
Drafted an action to all CCDL members to contact Kayla Berube from CTGOP to endorse and support candidates
Presented CCDL plaque at WLOPA at annual voting meeting
Went public with endorsements for Jerry Labriola and Tom Foley
VP report: not here, no report
Secretary’s Report (not present)
Waiting for reply from CT DEP on letter he sent regarding carry in State parks
Membership coordinator report
949 members on website, 62 new since last month
Attended picnic, fundraiser, and Kathy Brown’s fundraiser at Shooters in Southington,
Martha Dean event
Martha Dean still looking for any help she can get right now
Aug 14, 2nd annual family picnic at Boothe Memorial. Great turnout.
Fundraiser Aug 21, awarded prizes to top shooters and did the raffle. Scott’s niece won the shotgun tournament, her first time shooting a shotgun. Raffle brought approximately $6000 profit to CCDL.
Attended Emember meeting
Attended Sept. 10th presented WLOPA with plaque
Videos for picnic, fundraiser, and presentation up on CCDLInc’s Youtube page.
Thanks to everyone who participated, gave to, worked the events.
Technology Coordinator: report to follow (not present)
Legislative Advocacy Coordinator Steve Loban has stepped down. Position is open,
interested Emembers and General Members are encouraged to look into this position.
Public Relations Coordinator: nothing to report (not present)
Represented CCDL at all events in August and monthly meeting.
At WPLR fundraiser at Blue Trails, sold 20 shirts, 4 hats, several pins, donated a shirt to Charter Arms, net $360, turned over to Treasurer at last Emember meeting.
Net income from last general meeting $90
CCDL picnic net income $281
WLOPA fundraiser sales: 6 magnets, 2 hats, and 7 shirts, net income $150
Total sales from all events in August $881, turned over to Treasurer for net balance of $521.
Net income from Website sales 5 shirts and 1 hat, $120
Net income total $1001.
If any color of T-shirt desired, it can be special ordered.
Henry Zembko introduced himself running for 6th senate district (New Britain, Berlin, Farmington)
Republicans appreciate CCDL’s support, is easy for members to give support.
We need to go back to protecting our values so we don’t have to go and restore our liberties later.
Henry is against the EPA lead ammo ban
Candidates are happy to talk to anyone in general.
Question from E Jonathan Hardy:
A list of pro 2nd Amendment candidates is slow in coming. Should we put together a committee to find these candidates in a more organized way? Jonathan Hardy volunteers to be a part of this.
President says we have an internal forum we use with many names, but we’re missing names, and in a bit of a disarray right now. Steve tried to put together the District Coordinator system but it didn’t happen and it wasn’t enough.
7:30 Break, resume 7:44
discussion on picnic, fundraiser, these done
Gun Shop "Assault" Teams
Endorsements of candidates
Police chiefs and state carry project
Future involvement of general members
Legal defense fund, not sure what to do, still doing research
LAC position open, seeking inquiries. If someone has skills or confidence they can do it, interested in talking to you
Gun shop "assault" teams
Jonathan Maxson: Has website with all FFLs listed in the country. This is storefront and kitchen table dealers both. We need to contact both, can reach more people through storefront but also some through kitchen table types. Distribute wall placards,
pamphlets, cards. Many kitchen table dealers know lots of gun owners. Not good response thus far, only about 20% answer the phone or call back, mostly leaving voice messages.
Trying to organize the teams by town or area. Jonathan bought card holders from Staples for $1, tapes the last card to them. See Jonathan if you want to get involved.
Phil Cypher–if you just call, it’s in one ear and out the other many times. You have to visit to make it work.
Is That Legal pamphlets updated, soon to be posted on website
Len Suzio: invites anyone who wants to come to Meriden to his headquarters opening to talk to him, this Thursday the 16th.
Wednesday at 6 there’s a meet and greet for Martha Dean, Jerry Labriola, and Linda McMahon.
Thursday, 3:30-6:30 in Stamford is the protest against Obama’s endorsement outside the Stamford Marriott on Tresser Blvd. Big grassroots protest.
Endorsement of candidates
How to get membership involved has been a disputed matter
Decided to leave it up to the choice of the members of CCDL. Kayla Berube, representing the GOP, is the contact. Phone banking, folding, pass out lawn signs, stuff envelopes.
www.ctgop.org or Scott W has her phone number and e-mail, too.
Also Kathy Brown looking for help putting up lawn signs, etc in Bethany, Cheshire, etc.
Apology for light agenda. Donations accepted.
Feb 19th the 2nd Annual dinner at WLOPA. Date tentative April, Nutmeg Friends of the NRA dinner, probably going to purchase a table or two there.
Next legislative session after new candidates are seated will be a look at what’s coming down the pipe in legislation.