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7:04 PM 3/8/2011
Scott opens meeting and introductions
7:09 PM 3/8/2011
Worked a booth at the Hunting and Fishing show
Testified in Hartford on gun related bills
Nomintated and voted in new merchandise coordinator
Found a new gun shop coordinator
Worked with e-members to finalize details for Anniversary dinner at WLOPA
Contacted New London town manager about concealed carry ban and submitted a proposal to change the law
7:10 PM 3/8/2011
Attended 2 legislative sessions to give testimony against anti-gun bills and submitted written testimony on behalf of others.
7:11 PM 3/8/2011
Voted in new merchandise coordinator
Wrote testimony for on of the anti-gun bills
7:12 PM 3/8/2011
151 new member this month. Total of 1278 members
Finalized and ran H&F show. 15 volunteers over the course of 3 days.
- 100+ new members just from that show
Helped Technology coordinator clean up membership database
Printed 3000 Is That Legal pamphlets.
Went to first legislative session and wrote testimony for the second.
Trying to get info to get booth at YCGG gun show
7:15 PM 3/8/2011
Staffed Hunting and Fishing expo booth
Took in $411 last meeting.
Took in $623 total last month.
Began negotiations with new merch. vendor. Fast, easy, less expensive merchendise.
Will work with new merch. coordinator.
Booked caterer for our anniversary dinner.
7:17 PM 3/8/2011
Finalized details for 2nd annual dinner to be held April 2nd at Wolcott Land Owners Protective Association
Met with WLOPA board to discuss the details.
Represented CCDL at WLOPA meeting to discuss testifying in Hartford
Received tickets for our 2 tables at the Friends of NRA dinner.
7:18 PM 3/8/2011
Transferred money from paypal to CCDL bank account (donations and orders)
Updated members database
Updated website and featured sponsored
Went to Hartford to testify on gun bills.
7:21 PM 3/8/2011
Submitted testimony for one of the legislative sessions
Spent 2 days at H&F expo working booth
Trying to find a way to submit PSAs to broadcasters
7:22 PM 3/8/2011
Open forum - (Comments, questions and announcements from members, not necessarily CCDL endorsed)
On April 15th from 10a-2p, there will be a Tax Day rally. Looking for help with security. Martha Dean, Len Suzio, Joe Markley, will all be speakers. There will be an open mike slot.
Oath Keeper meeting is in Southington at the Police Station(69 Lazy Lane) on March 23rd
7:32 PM 3/8/2011
7:47 PM 3/8/2011
Call to order
7:48 PM 3/8/2011
7:49 PM 3/8/2011
Friends of NRA Dinner
March 18th at 6pm at the Aqua Turf in Southington.
As of the meeting 4 tickets at the CCDL table were left for $60/ticket.
7:50 PM 3/8/2011
Pistol and Rifle ranges will be open to CCDL members for the day.
Trap and skeet fields are open from 10-2
Pistol range is open from 10-sundown
Rifle range is open from 2-sundown
$10 donation at the door to get in
Fun, games and merchandice merchandise.
Family friendly event.
Cash bar available. Because alcohol is being served WLOPA's insurance prohibits the carrying of firearms inside the clubhouse.
WLOPA is located at 920 Woodtick Road in Wolcott, CT. If you are using a GPS, make a right and not a left on woodtick.
WLOPA's phone number is 203-879-9976
Applications to join WLOPA will be available. Memberships are offered at a pro-rated rate due to it being so far into their financial year. Smoking is allowed in the bar.
7:55 PM 3/8/2011
Testifying at Hartford
Historically, gun owners in CT have not been particularly involved.
It's critically important to get out to meet the legislature and voice your concerns.
Legislators are often not familiar with guns. We need to be the people they go to to ask questions and get the real facts about guns.
A bill is proposed. It goes to committee. The committee holds a public hearing on the bill, then vote on it and either let it out of committee or it dies in committee. After is leaves the committee it can go to the floor or to another committee. A second public hearing will not be heard (except if it's by the appropriations committee, which is the exception)
Changes can be made to bills until June 8th when the session ends.
This is all something you can do.
You don't need to be an expert on anything to testify. All you need to do is get up and introduce yourself, where you're from and tell them you either support or don't support their bill.
What can you do to be effective:
Contact your own legislators first. Go to cga.ct.gov, or town hall, to find out who your legislators are. Links are available on the CCDL website as well.
Public hearings are announced minimum 5 days before the hearing.
If you can't show up to the legislative sessions in person to submit testimony, written testimony can be submitted.
Get all your friends to do the same thing. We need people to get involved in ALL gun issues even if you don't think it applies to you.
If legislators do something you support, send them a note of thank you. They get yelled at all day long, they will remember some kind words.
How to write testimony:
Always use the bill number and title at the top
State up front whether you support or oppose it
Make testimony short and to the point
Include your name and town at a minimum
Include contact information if you feel comfortable receiving a follow up
Most committees don't accept e-mail testimony. You have to mail it ahead of time (usually 40 copies) or have someone who is going hand it in for you.
Bills to watch this legislative session:
SB 42 - AN ACT CONCERNING GUN SAFETY STANDARDS FOR FIRING RANGES
HB 5800 - AN ACT REQUIRING REGISTRATION OF ALL FIREARMS
SB 1094 - High cap mag ban (If this bill passes and you have not turned in all your magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds by July 1st, you can be charged with a Class D felony. There is no grandfather clause.)
Things to remember when interacting with legislators:
Don't be hostile to legislators.
Don't show up in camo or hunting gear. Dress NICELY. (Shrit/Ties are preferred)
Very important for women to go an testify as well.
Legislators have a poor image of gun owners. We need to present ourselves professionally.
Be polite and helpful.
DO NOT make up statistics. Have the facts (and sources) to back up your claims.
How to testify:
Show up at hartford.
Sign up for a speaking slot.
Wait for your name to be called.
Everyone gets 3 minutes to speak except legislators. They are not bound by a time limit.
If you can engage a legislator during your testimony, they might prompt you with questions that can extend your time.
8:43 PM 3/8/2011
Close of meeting
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Meeting called to order 7:05
Pledge of Allegiance
Welcome and introductions
-Opening comments from the President
-Rather than playing defense, we're going on the offensive to keep the State accountable for the protection of our rights. A proactive approach.
-New project is to make CT a true shall-issue state, more discussion to follow
-Sent an updated change of offices paperwork to Secretary of the State
-Clarified Paypal issues
-Renewed post office box
-Presided over E-meeting
-Discussed refreshments for this meeting
-Discussed rotating meeting location
-Discussed T-shirt order problems
-Voted to have a booth at the Expo this year
-Discussed community service project
-Discussed qualifications for E-members
-Discussed and voted on the new project to campaign for a true shall-issue system by dismantling the local issuing authority, coordinate a consistant effort for members to contact their legislators after they're seated, and provide templates and resources for them to do so.
-Will personally contact legislators for this project, get them to propose favorable laws
-Concentrate on gun shops and shooting ranges to support this project
7:12 Vice President's Report
VP out of state, no report
Just under $9k in bank, some of the checks we wrote this week haven't cleared yet
36 new members this month
Finalized arrangements to book a table at the 2011 CT Hunting/Fishing Expo
Picked up more Is That Legal Brochures
Corresponded with new members regarding the CCDL
7:15 Events Coordinator
-Annual party coming up, working to change date to early March because earlier date conflicted with Expo, probably will be 1st Saturday in March
LAC position open
Out of state, no report
Out of State
7:17 Merchandise Coordinator
-Last meeting, total of $128 in sales, 7 T-shirts, 2 magnets, 2 pins
-Issue with T-shirt printing, supplier wasn't getting our e-mails so didn't print the orders, should be resolved soon, but now missing many of our larger sizes
-Questions from the floor
-Nicholas V--Jury Duty--had to leave guns in car, because there's no way to secure weapons at the courthouse? Answer, yes, none. Also there is a policy by the BFPE that it's irresponsible to lock your gun in your car.
-Amy S.--Florida sends out a pamphlet explaining the law when you get your permit, with examples to clarify. We should suggest to DPS that lists every gun law and gives a synopsis of what it means.
-Jonathan H. says they just give you a card now, in CT, with the website on it.
-Alex S.--Webster bank is said to prohibit guns, but there was no sign. Is it against Federal law to carry a gun in a bank? Answer: no.
-Mike B.--says he was forced to leave his sidearm and even multi-tool in the car at DPS to renew his permit. We need more clarity on these issues.
-Scott W. says we can bring it up at the next E-meeting but suspects they'll bring up budget issues to refuse to do it.
-Town ordinances stricter than State law--does State preempt town? For instance, town ordinance prohibits carry of a loaded firearm within 500 yards of a town building, thus effectively prohibiting travel through the center of town. Answer: probably towns can preempt, including New Britain's ban on concealed carry.
-Jonathan H. says that in New Britain they say they they prefer you not to open carry, though concealed carry is illegal.
-OLR report requested from State recieved by Bob Crook, and we got it from him via an e-mail from Coalition of CT Sportsmen.
-Meeting called back to order 7:42
-Rich B. and Jonathan H. have a proposal to form the "Defensive Action and Response Committee", to respond to violations of rights. Actions include letter writing, phone calls, legislation. Working with the media to get the word out when this happens, before the police get this info out. This will be a more visible branch of the CCDL, giving backbone to our responses. Hopefully will include members experienced in FOIA requests, responses to police departments, etc.
-Rich is willing to lead this if he's the one chosen to do so
-This will be discussed in the E-member forum and in the next E-member meeting
-Old business brief last month, no further discussion needed.
-Food drive for community activism, proposed by Virginia B (at E-member meeting).
-Stephanie C. proposed a voter registration drive for this year as community service. The paperwork is easy and it fits with our mission.
-Shall Issue lobbying
-An effort to change CT from what it is now to a permit where you apply in one shot to an agency, preferably not DPS, for the permit, without any suitability or other way to disqualify people who are not disqualified by Federal law.
-Jonathan H.--concern is that this might also eliminate the BFPE, meaning that there's no recourse if your permit is revoked.
-Scott W. responded that if they're not Federally disqualified, and there's no suitability clause, then there should be no need for the BFPE.
-Removal of the extra requirements like suitability will eliminate the need for the BFPE, since if you're Federally barred from having a gun you can't have a permit anyway, and if you're not Federally disqualified you won't lose your permit for anything less.
-Amy S.--suggests that we do a little digging and find out from State and towns when, where and why they reject permit applications, which will show us where the hang-ups are.
-Judy A.--would that information come through an FOIA for each Town or just through the State? Amy says that you could get this from the State, and then ask the problem towns.
-Robert C. says we should go back through the minutes of the BFPE sessions, because often the towns who denied them didn't show up or issued the permit just before the appeal, meaning they didn't really care about preventing the person from getting the permit, were just doing it maliciously, meaning there's no reason the towns should have that power, and can't be trusted with that power.
-Doris L., from North Grosvenor Dale in the NE Corner of the State:
-Got her papers after taking her class, and got a big stack of papers from the Town. They asked for letters of reference, had to be mailed in. They say 6-8 months before she can get her Town permit, and demand the letters of reference. Did not turn in letters of reference, but turned in the other paperwork. No recourse until the 8 weeks are up, and at that point she can appeal to BPFE that her due process has been violated. In the meantime, Scott will contact legislators to see if they'll help.
-Is there ever a time when the police chiefs are all in one place, so they could be questioned about these policies? Possibly. Might easier to contact the Police Chiefs' organization. Or Rich B. suggests that we could have a summit for them to attend.
-Soon there will be templates up for members to use to further this project, send letters to legislators, etc.
-When they have public hearings on the proposal to ban open carry, we'll put up templates for that, and attend hearings if there are any.
-Rich B--why have a permit at all? Answer: it's not feasible to get rid of permits at this time.
-Race listed on permit--why? Is that necessary?
-Not this month but next month, we'll need to get new flyers out to shops and cards, too.
-Jonathan H. could handle this for the center of the State.
-John B--state chapter President for Oathkeepers. This year they want to put together groups to study the laws and work on emergency preparedness, since the State may not be able to handle those responsibilities very soon. This may allow us to keep martial law and FEMA out of the State, since citizens can take care of it. CCDL may be willing to participate in this, will be discussed at the E-meeting.
-Judy A.--the CCDL can offer legal advice for these sorts of groups--how to comply with the law on self-defense with firearms. We can also talk to other similar groups, have our members speak at their groups and vice versa. Networking with other organizations.
-Amy S.--The current session of the legislation starts January 5th. We're going to see bills proposed because of the recent shooting at the beer distributor, and there will be 3-5 days notice maximum before the hearings on them, so we need to be ready to testify, if we can.
-Judy A.--it's possible to go to the State website and have them send an e-mail for any updates to a proposed bill or bill so you can track legislation yourself. You can also track legislators, see what they propose. The CCDL will link to this on our website.
8:28 Meeting Adjourned.
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Meeting Minutes: November 9th 2010 CCDL
Meeting opened by Lenny with the Pledge of Allegiance:
Missing: President, Secretary, Membership Coordinator, Treasurer
President (by Lenny)
Attended Foley Malloy debate (no 2A questions or comments made)
SE CT forum for candidates attended
Due Process Violations brought up
Delays brought up
Public Access TV Show appearance
Introductions: New plus existing
Working 17 hour days for Martha Dean campaign
Worked with Judy Aron on questions to DEP regarding carry in state parks
Made changes to bylaws
Sold 6 Tee shirts and 1 hat
No new inventory ordered
Worked tirelessly on the Jerry LaBriola campaign
Feb 19 anniversary dinner at WLOPA details to follow
$200 transferred from Paypal to the bank account
Updates to the website
Changed featured sponsor ad, social networking information, email updates
With money in the kitty some thoughts for action:
Fight AWB in court
Flush out non-2A friendly folks get them on record
Talk to Legal Coordinator about this
Rich Burgess addressed the meeting:
Wallingford and Old Saybrook illegal detentions
Suggested a legal fund to fight cases and use judgements as seed money for
more lawsuits going forward.
Sue PD's that illegally detain carriers
Death by 1000 cuts, keep on fighting small battles (Ed Peruta's suggestion)
Martha's plans against Jepsens's eligibility ongoing
Joe Markley elected
Oathkeepers meeting in Southington on Wednesday Nov 17th 7-9pm at the
Southington police department auditorium, discussing precious metals,
CERT Training, SPD have been very supportive of the oathkeepers.
NH Child kidnapping by CFS in hospital of 16 hour old child due to fathers
membership in the oathkeepers (called them a militia) dismissed
CFS Suit to force a correction of their processes.
Alex Sanchez from Newington addressed the meeting:
OC and accosted by PD and State Police, confrontation in Stop and Shop
Cooperative and issued CCDL is it legal pamphlet, left to go on his way.
Judy Aron mentioned that there's a way to get documents to every library in the
state. Suggested we send some of our "Is that legal?" docs to all libraries as a
Hunting and Fishing expo in Hartford:
Jeff Tang Coordinationg
Shirt sales, information etc.
Cheryl said we need to change the date of the annual dinner so it won't conflict
with this weekend show.
John Beidler told us about a real life potential threat to his wife on a walking
trail, accosted by person asking why she was walking alone and asking if she was scared.
The mention of a loaded pistol was all it took to persuade individual to leave hastily.
Members suggested we remain on the legal offensive instead of reacting to things
No give backs. Lenny discussed at length the need for more volunteerism from the rank and file
Accept offers of help from the crowd
Rich B - His efforts help our cause a lot.
Andrew - Difficulty communicating to membership. Encourage membership to ask what needs doing
and to ask often.
Judy - Encouraged membership to write letters to local newspapers about CCDL and CT firearms
Phil - Volunteers when testimony is needed at the state house.
The more people that show up ready and prepared to testify the more of an impact we make
Andrew - Summer Libertarian false arrest
Discussed the Grand Jury System for redress of wrongs
File complaint against judges
File complaint against Police Officers for failing to arrest instigators of problems
Grand Jury presented with evidence and law - they can indict themselves (without prosecutor)
Keep public servants honest and accountable
Info on ctpatriotalliance.com
Meeting Adjourned 20:07