CCDL General Meeting Minutes
Tuesday, March 13th 2012
Open meeting with Pledge and introductions
Presidents Report
Held Executive meeting on 3/6/2012. No General meeting was held in February.
Staffed CCDL booth at the Hunting and Fishing show
Testified on numerous firearms Bills in Hartford
Communicated with Public Safety and Co-Chair Representative Dargan
Enlisted several speakers for the 2nd Amendment Rally
Gave an update on the 2A Rally
Vice Presidents Report
Staffed CCDL booth at the Hunting and Fishing show
Testified on firearms Bills in Hartford
Attended Executive meeting on 3/6/2012
Made down payment to Wolcott Landowners to hold the hall for 3rd Anniversary Party
Communicated with Public Safety on firearms bill
Discussed collecting donated canned goods
Secretary's Report (read by President)
Submitted testimony
Testified on firearms Bills in Hartford
Treasurers Report
Attended Executive meeting on 3/6/2012
Staffed CCDL booth for several shifts at the Hunting and Fishing show
Donations $376.37
Merchandising Sales $276.00
Total Expenses $283.45
Membership Coordinator (Read by Technology Coordinator)
Testified on firearms Bills in Hartford
2039 Members
Technology Coordinator
Attended Executive meeting on 3/6/2012
Made updates to Website.
Made updates to Facebook
Sent out e-mails to members
Events Coordinator
Attended Executive meeting on 3/6/2012
Discussed 3rd Anniversary Party
Public Relations
Submitted testimony
President asked if he could make Media fact sheet for the 2A Rally
Open carry policy on Capitol Grounds
Parking at Capital
Merchandise Coordinator
Attended Executive meeting on 3/6/2012
Website orders
Staffed CCDL booth at the Hunting and Fishing show
2A Rally Coordinator
Spoke with Lt. Glen Richards Capitol Police
Podium confirmed (to be provided by John B)
President asked Kurt W. to put together a questionnaire for Candidates to find out where they stand on firearms related issues and to help educate them on the issues. General discussion commenced with ideas for the questionnaire such as Castle Doctrine, Assault Weapons Ban and a Regulation change to the ban on State Park/Forrest carry.
Voluntary Contributions
Special Guest - Amy Stegel - Legislative Update
Submitted testimony
Testified on firearms Bills in Hartford
Updates on numerous Firearms related Bills in Short Session such as:
HB 5096, HB 5220 Toy Gun Bill, HB 5245, HB 5246, SB 100 Sex Assault with a Firearm penalty increase, SB 196 Bound Book
State Rep. Rob Sampson deserves credit
State Rep. Steve Mikutel (Democrat who was very Pro-2A)
Bill allowing Constables to carry on School grounds
SB 325 Mandatory Evacuation Bill
Much discussion commenced about these two bills
John B. gave a quick description about Agenda 21 and 'Sustainable Development'
Cheryl L.
One Ticket left for the NRA Dinner
Asked that everyone going to the 3rd Anniversary Dinner 6-10pm at Wolcott Landowners please confirm on Facebook
Scott W.
2nd Amendment Rally Filming
Discussion about proposed Waterbury Shooting Range near School
John B.
Discussion about the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and the need for Due Process
A reminder that 'Standing up for you Rights' is being watched.
Lenny B.
Discussed the Southern Poverty Law Center and their listing of organizations as being radical, even Militia like and being a threat to the Country. Amy S. calls it propaganda
Reminder about State Rep. Rob Sampson and State Senator Joe Markley's Pizza Party Fundraiser on March 21st, 2012 at Five Guys Flippin' Pies 690 Wolcott Rd. (Route 69) Wolcott, CT.
Scott W.
Reminder about the Death Penalty Testimony deadline
Meeting End

Open meeting with pledge and introduction

Executive Report - President
Coordinated the Executive member Meeting (Topics discussed: Hunting and Fishing show, Shall-Issue Campaign, NRA Banquet, Anniversary dinner)
Communicated with Ne London town council regarding concealed carry ban
Completed working on Shall issue document

Executive Report - Vice President
Attended Executive Member Meeting
Took delivery of CCDL return address stamp
Talked to chef for our Anniversary party
Answered all e-mails on CCDL 'bling' iron-on. Making deliveries soon

Executive Report - Secretary
Attended Executive Member Meeting
Worked on Shall-Issue document

Executive Report - Treasurer
Attended Executive Member Meeting
Expenses last month: $484
Donations from last month: $133

Coordinator Report - Membership
1866 Members
38 new this month
Attended Executive Member Meeting
Printed brochures
Maintained user DB with help of Technology Coordinator
Worked on gathering volunteers for Hunting and Fishing show

Coordinator Report - Events
Attended Executive Member Meeting
Uploaded speaker videos to our Youtube channel.
Did some coordinating on Anniversary dinner

Coordinator Report - Registered Agent
Nothing received in months

Coordinator Report - Merchandise
Received new merchandise from VP
Merchandise for sale during meeting

Coordinator Report - 2A Rally
Approved for location on date specified.
Flyers are done, need to distribute. Have some volunteers, but need to follow up with them.

CCDL Bling
Iron-on transfers available for sale. We will not be selling shirts with these already applied.
Selling for $10 each.
These can be applied with an iron or you can take it to a shirt shop to do the heat transfer for a nominal fee.
VP Will be meeting people in person to deliver these.

7:15 Minortown Firearms Group
Holing a meet the candidates forum for NorthWest corner of CT.
Saturday Jan. 21st, 3pm-7pm
Woodbury Senior/Community Center
265 Main St. South,  Woodbuy, CT
Candidates: Linda McMahon, Chris Shays, Justin Bernier, Mark Greenberg, Mike Clark, Lisa Wilson-Foley, among others.


Old business

7:30 BPFE Update
Board office is moving to a new location (with new phone numbers) on Trinity Street.
Board hearings are 'civil administrative hearings' and a lot can be admitted as evidence that wouldn't be admissible during criminal court. Sealed records can be brought up if a witness from town can provide character witness. You can fight that evidence being brought into the hearing, but who has the money to do that? 3 people in the past have gotten in trouble with this. By not answering a question, the board is allowed to take that silence as an admission of guilt. (adverse inference)
Federal firearms owner restrictions should be added to the Shall-Issue document to compare with state requirements.
About the individual who lost a gun while maintaining a trail in CT park/forest: The trail was approximately 20ft away from school property. Carrying an unloaded revolver with no speedloader and trigger guards. Chief Knapp wants to reinvestigate to see whether his permit should have statutorily been revoked as opposed to just being 'unsuitable' due to the proximity of the school.
CT Pistol Permit Issues website
- To compile a new list in next week or two about 20 or so new towns.
- Went from 2007-2011 OLR reports and pulled good information from them
- Castle Doctrine summary posted
Big Problem with fingerprints
- CGS ยง 29-29 describes a 5 day time limit once local-issuing authority receives fingerprints.
- DPS is not being straightforward about how long. Some reports include: 4, 6, or 12 week backlog.
The BPFE is considering taking a few meetings a year solely for administrative denials to speed up the process for those denied on paperwork issues.
Currently doing two meetings a month.
If town sends you a denial, but doesn't give a reason, schedule an appeal and don't ask about it. Town are required to tell you within 10 days of hearing. If they don't tell you the reasons within 10 days of the hearing, the BPFE has been pretty consistently finding for the applicant.

Hunting and Fishing Show
Hartford Convention Center, Feb. 17th-19th
Mostly about Hunting and Fishing, but some gun vendors will be there.
If you want to volunteer to talk about gun rights w/ other contact Jeff. Admission for volunteers is free.

2A Rally
Still working on finding a podium.

Anniversary Dinner
March 24th @ Wolcott Land Owners Protective Association
6-7 for cocktail hour
7-10 dinner
Entry fee between 10-15, will finalize.

Friends of NRA Dinner
April 7th at Aquaturf
Will be purchasing 2 tables. See Event's Coordinator (Cheryl) for details.
If you get a table and want to sit near CCDL, tell Ray when you submit for tickets.

Cos Cob Gun Club
Scott received an e-mail from CosCob gun club. Cos Cob is on City Owned lands and having trouble with the town.

Final Notes
No meeting next month, due to St. Valentine's Day.
Suggestion: On Website if an instructor wants brochures offer to send them some.

Close of meeting

7:05 PM 12/13/20115
Open meeting with pledge and introduction

7:08 PM 12/13/2011
Executive Report - President
Held executive meeting on Nov. 22 (Discussed 2A rally, Hunting and Fishing show, discussed BPFE ruling
Drafted letter to Police Chiefs
Extended introduction to new New London mayor. Going to try working with them to eliminate open carry ban.
Worked with Committee Members on Shall-Issue campaign

7:10 PM 12/13/2011
Executive Report - Vice Presidnet
Designed stamp with return address of CCDL
Attended Exec. Meeting

7:10 PM 12/13/2011
Executive Report - Secretary
Attended Exec. Meeting
Worked on Shall-Issue document

7:10 PM 12/13/2011
Executive Report - Treasurer
Attended Exec. Board meeting
Donations from last month: $360.55
Merchandise from last month: $452.55
Expenses from last month: $263.11

7:11 PM 12/13/2011
Coordinator Report - Committee
1835 total members
32 new this month
Attended executive meeting
Continued to work on staffing for Hunting and Fishing show

7:12 PM 12/13/2011
Coordinator Report - Events
Looking at mid to end of March for annual dinner.

7:13 PM 12/13/2011
Coordinator Report - 2A Rally Coordinator
Late Oct. sent in building use application.
April 28th, 2012 has been reserved and approved. If we can find our own podium, we won't be charged for anything. Looking for volunteers for flyer distribution. John B. Treasurer to design a flyer.

NOTE: The Connecticut Citizens Defense League often gives the floor to members who wish to speak on various topics that may be of interest to CCDL members. Guests are responsible for all statements made. Though the CCDL does not necessarily believe or promote these statements, it does try to faithfully summarize the sentiments to the best of it's ability.

7:18 PM 12/13/2011
Special Guest - John P. - Discussion on gangs and guns
Firearms are the ultimate arbitor of our freedom.
Personal protection against crime. Police are often too far away to protect us.
Ability to resist government oppression
Personal protection against social breakdown spurred on by global monetary breakdown
Firearms will be the first and last line of defense.
Government gun confiscation is a reality in the face of disaster (as evidenced by Katrina)
Peace officers of John's day has become the Law Enforcement Officer of today. Former kept peace. Latter now serves to enforce the law. Law often serves to protect the criminal while the victim fears repurcussions of protecting themselves.
Tax supported international organizations of municipalities and legislatures are not elected and serve their own purposes by proposing uniform codes you don't have any say in.
Today there are 25,000 gangs, and 1 million confirmed gang members, active in the US.
These gangs are sophisticated and organized. Some even supported by their respected governments.
Street gangs are used to violence. There's nothing you can threaten them with.
In 10 years, only 57,000 arrests and only 30,000 convictions have been made.
With 1 million gang members in the United States, what are going to do about it?
Oppose all gun control measures at all levels of government, get your firearms permits and guns now.

7:45 PM 12/13/2011
Special Guest - Amy Stegel - Legislative (and others) Update
Zoning proposal in Killingly: town wanted to ban target shooting on private property. Ended up being killed quite soundly. Highlights need to be active in town politics and have one-on-one conversations with town managers.
National Right to Carry Bill: Impacts CT residents who are unable to get non-resident permits in other states. Lot of rumors are not true. Visit NRA or Gun Owners of America websites for accurate information. Probably will pass House, likely won't pass Senate. It's a good bill and should be supported.
CT Redistricting: Lost 2 anti-gunners, districts aren't settled. Pay attention to know where you land when districts are finalized. You need to know who to contact when the legislative session opens.
Session opens in Februrary. No date yet. Short session, which is dangerous. February-May. Only supposed to deal with budget items.
Everyone should writing/calling legislators to introduce themselves before the session opens. Legislators deal with 100s of people each session, so keep on their radar. Thank them for antyhing they've done well. This should be a 'warm and fuzzy' introduction.
DOJ press release in Nov. in which it announced charges against 2 individuals who stole firearms from residents throughout Connecticut. Question Raised: How did they know where the firearms were? Allegedly they stole whole safes without knowing what the contents were and extracted contents later.
National Associatino of Gun Rights has been sending out e-mails on gun related bills. Some of their information was questionable. Be wary when forwarding their e-mails. Please get your information from known reputable organizations NRA, GOA, CCDL, SAF, etc.
You can now renew pistol permits through the mail.
Colt opened a new factory in Florida. They're 'not moving' but have approximate 50 well paying positions. Locating in FL because they are a right-to-work state and are gun friendly.
Suggestion that CCDL should gather pro-gun newspaper clippings of CT residents defending themselves with guns.

8:10 PM 12/13/2011

8:23 PM 12/13/2011
Jonathan - BPFE update
Got to see new Board member, appointed by Malloy filling a vacancy of over a year.
An interesting case of a person who doesn't speak very good english who has an arrest from 20 years ago for stealing a pack of batteries and was denied. Board overturned.
Active domestic case or active accerlerated rehabilitation cannot apply for permits.
You have 90 Days from time you were denied by the town to appeal. Make sure you get paperwork postmarked before that time. If your denial letter didn't include a reason for denial, do not investigate why. If a reason is not supplied by town by the time of appeal hearing, the board will generally automatically over-rule.
Store clerk in New Haven defended a customer with a firearm and had it confiscated by New Haven Police as 'evidence'. He was able to buy another firearm.
Unfortunately, some times people get screwed by police department when they don't get statements from other witnesses at the scene. No way around this.
Goldberg lost his appeal of the Chili's open carry incident in the 2nd Circuit Court.

8:42 PM 12/13/2011
Copy of declaratory ruling
Need numbers from BPFE
9 questions as it relates to suitability?
Final draft needs to be finished.
Getting Shall-Issue passed this year not likely because of short session. Need to find a legislator really supportive of it.

8:45 PM 12/13/2011
Police Chief Letter
Need a way to link to the BPFE ruling regarding open carry.
Possibly ask the Board to include additional information when they send out mailing to police chiefs.

8:50 PM 12/13/2011
Hunting and Fishing Expo
Feb. 17th-19th at the CT Convention Center
Still looking for volunteers to staff table. 4-hour shifts.
Admission is free if volunteering, but you may have to pay for parking.

8:52 PM 12/13/2011
There are gun associations that are non-profit. Look for one if you need tax-deductible donations by end of year.

8:54 PM 12/13/2011
Close of meeting

7:10 PM 11/8/2011
Open meeting and introduction

7:14 PM 11/8/2011
Executive Report - President
Held executive meeting - Discussed gun questionairre, 2A rally, Hunting and Fishing show, Shall issue campaign, BPFE ruling and how to distribute it)
Filed FOIA with DPS for permit statistics
First draft of Shall Issue Campaign letter
Coordinated speakers for meeting

7:15 PM 11/8/2011
Executive Report - Vice President
Attended executive member meeting.
Acquired list of local issuing authorities from BPFE for use in distributing BPFE ruling
Put effort into getting window decals into our merchandise
Spent last weekend shooting with pro-2A folks

7:17 PM 11/8/2011
Executive Report - Secretary
SHall issue letter

7:17 PM 11/8/2011
Executive Report - Treasurer
Balance $7308
Donations and Merch Sales -
Expenses - $616

7:18 PM 11/8/2011
Coordinator Report - Mem
1795 members total
25 new this month
Updated membership database with Virginia
Drafted and distributed questionairre to Bridgeport Mayoral candidates. None have responded as of yet.

7:20 PM 11/8/2011
Coordinator Report - Events
Attended executive meeting
Nothing new coming up.

7:20 PM 11/8/2011
Coordinator Report - Tech
Made updates to Database and website.
Sent out e-mails to members and faceboko updates.
Attended exec meeting

Renewed website hosting
Working on product for female members. May have quote this week for new supplier.

7:21 PM 11/8/2011
Coordinator Report - PR
Nothing to report.
Scott says we may have some press releases to send out this month

7:21 PM 11/8/2011
Coordinator Report - Merch
New piece of merchandise for save. A car decal.
Working on getting a sample of patches for range bags and similar items.

7:23 PM 11/8/2011
2A Rally Coordinator
Could not be here tonight.
Haggling with administrator at Capitol over cost to hold event there. It may be provided to us at no cost after some discussion.

7:24 PM 11/8/2011
Special Guest - Dan Reel, candidate for 2nd US Congressional District

7:41 PM 11/8/2011
Special Guest - Wayne Winsley, candidate for 3rd US Congressional District

8:01 PM 11/8/2011

8:12 PM 11/8/2011
Old business

8:13 PM 11/8/2011
Constitution Lobby
Estelle Stephens spoke to us a few months ago to discuss the Constitution Lobby.
After Gov. Malloy came out with some executive orders, the Constitution Lobby sent him a Cease and Desist letter to which he had to put another executive order clarifying that he's not trying to usurp power from the Legislature.
Then they sent a request to the Legislature to investigate whether the oaths of office were violated and the Legislature has scheduled a public hearing.
We need people to show up at the public hearing November 10th at 10AM in Room 1A in the Legislative Office Building.
The Constitution Lobby will have some training classes on protecting the constitution.

8:20 PM 11/8/2011
Shall Issue
Scott submitted a copy of the campaign
Kevin mentioned some sections

8:38 PM 11/8/2011
Permit Issues
There may be another declaratory ruling coming out.
Based on some of the issues seen in Hartford and other towns. website has an outline on how to prepare for the permit appeal process
A person in Hartford has said last month to fight extra requirements from Hartford. One person will submit application by mail to avoid 90 day delay. Another individual will go farther by getting background check done first.
New legislation coming up:
- Open Carry to come up in
- Out of state permits and eligibility certificates
BPFE Ruling
Have decided to send the rulings to the chiefs of police for clarification on open carry.

8:47 PM 11/8/2011
Gun Questionairre
Kurt to improve questions and submit new questions soon.

8:47 PM 11/8/2011
Hunting and Fishing
February 10th - 12th is the 2011 Hunting and Fishing Expo.
We've had a table there for the last few years now.
Please sign up with Jeff at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. if you'd like to help out. You have to pay for parking, but entrance to the event is free.
We try to pair new members with more experienced members so no one is alone.

8:51 PM 11/8/2011
Agenda 21
Last month was the Agenda 21 seminar. 4 other towns have signed up for the seminar as well.
Dates/times are available on Facebook.
Seminars are free

8:59 PM 11/8/2011
Close of meeting